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Class 2011 March 8 : Anatomy of a Clusterfuck

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  1. Sais Xue | March 9, 2011 - 02:52 AM

    [05:06 PM] Sais Xue: Well, doesn't look like anoyone else is showing up... so lets get this show on the road then. First off... Lets define a group fight. Ssince I am awesome and won't use a word in its own definition, a group fight is when three or more avatars congregate and engage in an rp battle... least SL wise. And... hello there Max.
    [05:08 PM] Sais Xue: Now, Usually with the group fight, it's just like a one on one... may want to im each other about specifics, and if an ST is there, always want to talk together. I personally prefer the dice rooms because there is no lag, and even if you crash you can let them know. Usually along the lines of "Oh fuck, I crashed!"

    [05:09 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol my favorite
    [05:11 PM] Sais Xue: Now... just like in normal combat... And hello, Varoona... A post order is VERY important. Usually the best way to work out the post order for a growing group is to just put the new comers at the bottom of the order, make sure everything stays fair and balanced.
    [05:14 PM] Sais Xue: But.... can anyone tell me the first thing that should happen when a group fight is starting. And by group fight, I am refering to the clusterfuck size advertized in the notices... 5+ people definatly
    [05:14 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: Storyteller definetly?
    [05:14 PM] Razor tries to forget the last time he was in a 5+ fight
    [05:14 PM] Varoona Valdez: kill yourself
    [05:14 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: umm figure out why this many people are involved? And then close the fight?
    [05:15 PM] Sais Xue: Nimi wins the prize.... though Saria and V both gave pretty good answers as well.
    [05:15 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: be prepared to stay up all night probably as it takes soooo long for people to get to their posts
    [05:15 PM] Catt Catiria: Establish a posting order then call an st
    [05:15 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol run...
    [05:15 PM] Catt Catiria: TP out to another sim
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    [05:16 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: Lmao..

    [05:16 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: go batshit and throw anything in reach at the group
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    [05:16 PM] Catt Catiria: better yet, change your character and claim ignorance
    [05:16 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: go to the bathroom...
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    [05:17 PM] Razor tries to rember when nuclear warheads were invented & how one can be brought here for a fight
    [05:17 PM] Sais Xue smirks "yes... running is a good idea... but do remember.. leaving a fight that size is a hassle. Lets say you have a 6v2 fight. Any attempt you make to run meets the normal rules of combat... as in they each get a turn to try to stop you. Which leads to LOTS of chances to foil your escape.
    [05:17 PM] Varoona Valdez: nukes don't come till the end of WWII so 1940's
    [05:18 PM] Sais Xue: And.. Catt, tping out is really verboten. So none of that. *smirks*
    [05:18 PM] Varoona Valdez: gotta wait 60 years for that
    [05:18 PM] You decline Mardi Gras @ Torri's 2011 from A group member named Regina Easterwood.
    [05:18 PM] Catt Catiria: I know, I was just being a little shit as normal
    [05:18 PM] Razor lets out a wolfish snicker
    [05:18 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: end of WWII Razor...
    [05:18 PM] Varoona Valdez: thank you roe reiterating saria
    [05:19 PM] Astrid Floresby feels very naked and covers herself with Saria
    [05:19 PM] Razor projects "so they all die of ald age waiting?"
    [05:19 PM] Sariayna Yuhara giggles and likes this idea
    [05:20 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: your very welcome Aiyanna
    [05:21 PM] Sais Xue: And... remember... all of the abilites apply... so if you are blinded, frozen, crippled, silenced, levitated, etc... unless someones casts a spell to cure you, you are stuck like that till the caster's next turn. which could take awhile. But... we touched on this earlier... and it makes a good segway.... but there are only four real options when a person does try to flee
    [05:22 PM] Razor rembers someone nearly drowning in sewer water trying to flee
    [05:23 PM] Sais Xue: 1. The person can't escape because of all the chances to foil them.. and they are cool with that. The person manages an escape. The person can't escape.. and they are part of the scene much longer then they wish to be. And finally.. RL rears its ugly head and they have to make an exit that makes little sense plausibility wise.
    [05:23 PM] Saori Aeon: Random temporal shift... *nods*
    [05:25 PM] Astrid Floresby blinks then whispers to Saria, "I didn't get those..."
    [05:26 PM] Sais Xue: And as I said, Saori... can make for implausible exits... like the people just going "Meh... we won't continue to go after you.. and will let you run off.." forcing people to RP against character. Everyone understand that concept?
    [05:26 PM] Sariayna Yuhara whisper back "Me either.."
    [05:26 PM] Saori Aeon: crap...that was the wrong gesture -_-
    [05:26 PM] Saori Aeon: gomenasai!

    [05:26 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: ....
    [05:26 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: Epic XD
    [05:26 PM] Varoona Valdez: yay random anime ... stuff
    [05:26 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: ROFL...I was fine with that Gesture :3
    [05:26 PM] Saori Aeon: That was supose to be a wave, but I miss-clicked at the last second >.>
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    [05:27 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: I almost had to rely on a random act of nature one night
    [05:27 PM] Lamia Starspear has entered chat range (20.0m)
    [05:27 PM] Sariayna Yuhara snickers and tries really hard to be good...
    [05:27 PM] Usagi Vyper: I understand.
    [05:28 PM] Siansa McDonnell is Online
    [05:28 PM] Sariayna Yuhara mostly becuase Sais has a ruler she isn't afriad to use... O.o
    [05:28 PM] GRIGORI Yardley is Offline
    [05:28 PM] Varoona Valdez: for me i had to give my character a magical ability to cover her trail just to escape from one of these cluster fucks
    [05:28 PM] Astrid Floresby gets fully naked to see if she can still be good >.>
    [05:28 PM] Razor makes no comment
    [05:28 PM] Sais Xue: But... distracting gestures aside... if you have any questions about what I just said or any comments you think would illuminate the subject, feel free to ask. Otherwise.. we will continue to the next point.. and heh... magical ability... interesting, V
    [05:28 PM] Sariayna Yuhara ack!
    [05:28 PM] Saori Aeon quick camera pans to Astrid..
    [05:29 PM] You decline Family dinner from A group member named Steffany Sorbet.
    [05:29 PM] Sariayna Yuhara starts plotting Sebastions demise....again...
    [05:29 PM] Astrid Floresby: D:
    [05:29 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom also looks at Astrid...
    [05:29 PM] Astrid Floresby: <3 Sebastion
    [05:29 PM] Maddie Scorpio is Offline
    [05:29 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol she always does that..
    [05:29 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: and yet TEMPTS ME!
    [05:29 PM] Sariayna Yuhara goes back to being good...
    [05:29 PM] Razor closes his eyes & reminds himself he has fur here
    [05:30 PM] Varoona Valdez: i don't know how many paeople remember scarlet the tornado? but orriginally i didn't design her to have the ability to conjure a dust devil till i got in to a 12v1 fight
    [05:30 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom feels overdressed
    [05:30 PM] Lamia Starspear: What does 'being good' mean? O.O
    [05:30 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol not inciting the man with the hammer....
    [05:30 PM] Sariayna Yuhara points at Marcus
    [05:31 PM] Sais Xue: Alright.... next subject. I am going to go over the things one should avoid with group fights... ways to avoid clusterfucks.'
    [05:31 PM] Saori Aeon agrees with Ocean and thinks she should strip down to just the cargo net..
    [05:31 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: FIGHT IN LOCKED HOMES!
    [05:31 PM] Emmily entices the man with the hammer.
    [05:31 PM] Astrid Floresby: lol
    [05:31 PM] Sais Xue: The most basic..... is Huge groups. While you may want renact a Victorian Sharks Vs. the Jets in the mean streets of London, do remember that everyone has to take a turn. Lets put it in a numbers format. 8 people. lets say they take 3 minutes a post. you wait 24 minutes before your turn... if everyone moves quickly. That is one round. Best possible conditions.
    [05:31 PM] Varoona Valdez: back alley streeets
    [05:31 PM] Varoona Valdez: the woods
    [05:31 PM] Varoona Valdez: general places people don't go
    [05:32 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: actually if i loose the underwear the chain mail is pretty much invisible Saori...
    [05:32 PM] Varoona Valdez: or attempt to get the other person to agree to a duel that way it forces only two parties to be involved
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    [05:32 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: :3 *cams Ocean*
    [05:32 PM] Sais Xue: and hehe.... that's actually a later point of mine... but yes... not fighting in the main street is a GREAT idea that I have seen ignored quite a bit
    [05:32 PM] Razor wonders once again why he didn't stick with playing a human here
    [05:33 PM] Sariayna Yuhara whistles and looks completely innocent as Sais says that
    [05:33 PM] Saori Aeon: Don't do that, Sprocket likes her new mongrel friend Razor!
    [05:33 PM] Razor projects "would not suggest fighting in sewers though...take this WOLF's word for it
    [05:33 PM] Lamia Starspear: My god, Marcus. it's so BIG!
    [05:33 PM] Lamia Starspear: Can I touch it?
    [05:33 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: LMAO!!!
    [05:34 PM] Lamia Starspear: <.<
    [05:34 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: ROFL
    [05:34 PM] Saori Aeon: MARCUS! Put that way or...oh..the hammer... nevermind
    [05:34 PM] Sais Xue: But... Does everyone understand the numbers issue?
    [05:34 PM] Saori Aeon: away*
    [05:34 PM] Astrid Floresby: yes
    [05:34 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: yep
    [05:34 PM] Marcus Firegrave: yes sais
    [05:34 PM] WilliamFitzpatrick Resident: yes
    [05:34 PM] Usagi Vyper: Yes, I understand.
    [05:34 PM] StormyMoonNight Resident: yes
    [05:34 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: ohh yes
    [05:34 PM] Sariayna Yuhara smiles "Yesh"
    [05:34 PM] StormyMoonNight Resident: Found ut thehard wy
    [05:34 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: nods

    [05:35 PM] Sais Xue: Now. The next thing.... aside from not fighting in public... which you all seem to grasp already... seem counter intuitive. But I'll explain why not. THe next thing you don't want to do is to call for backup. Can anyone give a few reasons why you wouldn't want to?
    [05:36 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: close to meta gaming.
    [05:36 PM] Varoona Valdez: because your back up calls for back up
    [05:36 PM] Fiona Restless: it's not fair
    [05:36 PM] Marcus Firegrave: it makes the cluster fuck worse
    [05:36 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: 6 on 2 aint fair either.. so whats your point there fi?
    [05:36 PM] Razor: "plus it depressing when you're winning & find another five enemies behind you"
    [05:36 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: my words exactly Marcus
    [05:37 PM] Saori Aeon: Simple minds think alike ^_-
    [05:37 PM] Lamia Starspear: O=
    [05:37 PM] Varoona Valdez: one of the cluster fucks i was in started as a duel and people kept calling for back up and their back up had friend s and before i knew it 12 on1
    [05:38 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: more people = more crazy
    [05:38 PM] Fiona Restless: calling for back up turns things into an arms race
    [05:38 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: if its one on one.. then don't call backup.. if your outnumbered.. and hell yes call backup lol..
    [05:38 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: it is indeed metagaming when someone IM their friends for help
    [05:38 PM] Sais Xue: All valid points. And it can be fair.... Fiona. There are three main reasons I have... two of which you guys touched on. The first, of course, if metagaming. If you have a means to talk to other players, a magic crystal, perhaps you're next to a phone... smoke screens, whatever... it HAS to be rped out. I know of a few instances that didn't happen... and it caused quite a fuss
    [05:38 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: and cos then you dont get to kick there ass ALL on your own and feel good aboutit

    [05:39 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: hehe
    [05:39 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: and ofcourse.. a boot to the head. o_o
    [05:39 PM] Saori Aeon: I just don't fight... more fun to just RP
    [05:39 PM] Lamia Starspear: Well I was going to stay for what's left of class but all I can think about is touching Marcus' big fat...hammer. Have fun, everyone and see you on sim!
    [05:39 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: ohh yes boots are awesome!!
    [05:39 PM] Sais Xue: Because iming your buddy for help... is cheating.. pure and simple. And yes... huge groups are a bitch. I gave the numbers already... and large groups are prone to crazy.
    [05:39 PM] Saori Aeon: I'll be looking for you Lamia, trust me ^_-
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    [05:39 PM] Razor starts to be glad he's a telepath now
    [05:40 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: I don't know if your character is telepathic and can call someone it's not Metagaming....it DOES however make the clusterfuck worse...
    [05:41 PM] Razor: "depends on if i'm the one outnumbers & getting my furry butt kicked"
    [05:41 PM] Sais Xue: But the last reason... is plausibility. You can yell for help perhaps in local... but your buddy... across sim comes over to your rescue, guns blazing? That's implausible. And as I said before, Sar... if you call for help.. if MUST be rped out so the other person has some hit that it is coming.
    [05:41 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: calling for help is part of the game and RP BUT it has to be plausable as does their ENTRY. From Torn Oaks to thepark in 1 round? I do nto think so.
    [05:41 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: oh yes I would absolutely play it out
    [05:41 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: lol oops sorry Sais
    [05:42 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: ya I agree with that one Ocean
    [05:42 PM] Lamia Starspear: Evening. ^_^
    [05:42 PM] Sais Xue: A scene that ends up as "Oh, suprise! 5 of my firends showed up cause of that eye closing" really isn't plausible at all... and yes, Ophelia... that is it as well. You need at least a couple rounds before the other people show up
    [05:42 PM] Saori Aeon: I'mma go run amuck in sim.. Love ya Sais!
    [05:43 PM] Saori Aeon gives Sais a passing fondle.
    [05:43 PM] Sais Xue: Ah.. tah tah then, Saori. Marcus, can you pop her some exp please?
    [05:43 PM] Marcus Firegrave: sure thing
    [05:44 PM] Marcus Firegrave: or not
    [05:44 PM] Sais Xue: As much as people try to be.... no one's superman. No moving so fast you can cross sim before I swing my fist a second time. That's just stupid.
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    [05:44 PM] Razor wonders if Will's head hurts having Marcus's hammer hitting it over & over
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    [05:45 PM] Varoona Valdez: razor i've wondered the same thing when people stand to close to me and keep gettign clocked by my boobs
    [05:45 PM] Marcus Firegrave: hey hes standing there, not my fault
    [05:45 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: GAINT HAMMER OF DOOM!
    [05:45 PM] Sais Xue: But... this is something else... Type while waiting for your turn. An average time for a decent post is about 3 minutes. If you get the basics out of the way... like typing the reactions to people as they go along... it does three things. Forces you to read the reactions so you don't miss things, as well as cuts down on overall time. Now... last minute edits can change this, or people's actions can change yours... but overall most of what you would type ahead of time won't change.
    [05:45 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: sorry been holding taht one in
    [05:46 PM] Razor shakes his head...avoiding the chance of several really bad jokes
    [05:46 PM] You decline Echoing Insanity from A group member named Vedis Seid.
    [05:46 PM] Fiona Restless: still haven't gotten that to sound right to me
    [05:47 PM] Sais Xue: Does everyone understand that bit... have anything in that you wish me to elaborate on, any questions?
    [05:48 PM] Usagi Vyper: No questions, i think i got it.
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    [05:48 PM] Varoona Valdez: actually i have one
    [05:48 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: it makes sense, say there are 8 people and in one round you got puncjed, healed and your friend's fire ball went stellar and you got burned after the heal, ....that is a lot to remember and respond to
    [05:48 PM] Varoona Valdez: lets say for instance one of the people i was fighting called for back up
    [05:48 PM] Sais Xue: mhm
    [05:49 PM] Varoona Valdez: However, the place that we are fighting can only be entered by avoiding deadly traps.
    [05:49 PM] Varoona Valdez: saying that said back up just tped in. is it ok to exclude them from the rp until they post a reaction about how they got around said traps?
    [05:49 PM] Setth Avora is Offline
    [05:49 PM] Sais Xue: tped in?
    [05:49 PM] Varoona Valdez: yup
    [05:49 PM] Setth Avora is Online
    [05:50 PM] Catt Catiria: they shouldn't be tp'd in but I would act like they weren't there until they posted in
    [05:50 PM] Varoona Valdez: i guess a shorter version of that question is how to you feel about calling bullshit on some one
    [05:51 PM] Sais Xue: Oh... you can't tp into a fight. TPing in at least 20 meters away is permissible at times, but usually not with a fight. And yes, they would need a plausible rp for getting around traps. And that, V.... is when you ask to pause rp and get an ST
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    [05:51 PM] Marcus Firegrave: and then midn and respect the ST with information and the like
    [05:51 PM] Varoona Valdez: aaah ok just wondering because there have been many many fights that i wanted to call bulshit on
    [05:52 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: people shuld just stop fighting.. and just hugg like a bunch of carebears.. *nods*
    [05:52 PM] Sais Xue care bear stares Nimi
    [05:52 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: Nimi, you on drugs or summat?
    [05:52 PM] Varoona Valdez: that i think would do more dammage then fighting nim
    [05:52 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: yea.. catts feeding me love drugs.. :/
    [05:52 PM] Razor projects an image of tossing a carebear around like a rag doll
    [05:52 PM] Sais Xue: Anyway.... yes... if you would call bullshit on some rp... you would want to call for an ST
    [05:53 PM] Usagi Vyper: could be ebil, roll a d10 an tell them they have to wait THAT many turns before being allowed to act.
    [05:53 PM] Varoona Valdez: cool that's my only question
    [05:53 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: so say.. the ice rink incident a few days ago? :p
    [05:53 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: LOL @ Usagi
    [05:53 PM] Candi Alchemi is Online
    [05:53 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: That rp was just.. chaotic.. messy.. and.. weird..
    [05:54 PM] Sais Xue: if you guys agree on it independently... Usagi's idea would work. And... yeah, from what I know... the ice rink think was a clusterfuck.
    [05:54 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: its was dreadful
    [05:54 PM] Catt Catiria: I would like to know why someone could use a legendary instead of a harm roll?
    [05:55 PM] Usagi Vyper: i saw the start of the ice rink fight, and walked away knowing it was gonna bea slow mo mess.
    [05:55 PM] Varoona Valdez: because their stupidity is things of ledgends
    [05:55 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: i usually consider.. pv-ability.. self imbuements.. or weapon enchants on the fly. short periods ofcourse..
    [05:55 PM] Sais Xue: .... in what context, Catt? You really.. can't, roll a PVA instead of legendary
    [05:55 PM] Sais Xue: ... pva instead of harm
    [05:55 PM] Sais Xue: meh. can't type
    [05:56 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: loves the duration roll for arrival, writes it down
    [05:56 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: good one Usagi
    [05:56 PM] Catt Catiria: What it was, I saw someone that constantly used legendary roll when it should have been a harm
    [05:56 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: that is a good time to say "I want an ST"
    [05:56 PM] Marcus Firegrave: legendaries are draining physically and mentally, at most 3 a day is excessive as hell
    [05:57 PM] Catt Catiria: I did
    [05:57 PM] Sais Xue: Yeah. That's when one calls an ST because that is not how the roll works
    [05:57 PM] You decline Mardi Gras @ Torri's 2011 from A group member named Regina Easterwood.
    [05:57 PM] Catt Catiria: The other 2 said that they agreed on it in IM
    [05:57 PM] Catt Catiria: I think that was total bullshit
    [05:57 PM] Catt Catiria: I say 4 legendaries in a row used

    [05:58 PM] Astrid Floresby: o.O
    [05:58 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: if you were involved in the fight then you havea right to call an ST
    [05:58 PM] Varoona Valdez: so.... they commited suicide?
    [05:58 PM] Catt Catiria: and it was a new type of race who wouldn't have been able to do that yet
    [05:58 PM] Kristel Magic is Online
    [05:58 PM] Varoona Valdez: what race?
    [05:58 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: new race?
    [05:58 PM] Sais Xue: That... is something that you would need to talk to an ST about another time.. but the first time you see a roll used improperly, you call an ST.
    [05:59 PM] Catt Catiria: shuts up for now
    [05:59 PM] Varoona Valdez: alrighty i've got a little work i need to do to finish Aiyanna's summer coat so i think i'm gonna head out
    [06:00 PM] Sais Xue: kk. You have a great time, V. And.. Marcus, pop her some exp?
    [06:00 PM] Marcus: ((Aiyanna Angwusonomataqa is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:00 PM] Razor wonders how Aiyanna is able to walk upright
    [06:00 PM] Sais Xue: But.. .my next topic... is the effect Clusterfucks have on the players
    [06:00 PM] Varoona Valdez: thanks see ya in a bit
    [06:01 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: This is important
    [06:01 PM] Sais Xue: Players can get frustrated if things are taking awhile. Remember... people have rules like "If no rp for 30 minutes, will leave" I don't suppose they are any happier sitting for that long waiting for a turn watching rp around them.
    [06:01 PM] Astrid Floresby nods
    [06:02 PM] Razor snorts "more like 10 mins"
    [06:02 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: darn I need to go guys - but good to see you all
    [06:02 PM] Sais Xue nods "Heh... I was using one of the higher end numbers, Razor. But.. Marcus.. Pop Ocean some Exp
    [06:02 PM] Catt Catiria: Bye Ocean, HUGS
    [06:03 PM] Marcus: ((Ocean Mortimer-Brown is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:03 PM] Oceantide Leifstrom: cheers! bye ...
    [06:03 PM] WilliamFitzpatrick Resident: BY BY Ocean
    [06:03 PM] LaRPS Meter v0.25: ((Oceantide Leifstrom's meter has been detached.))
    [06:03 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: BYE OCEAN!
    [06:03 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: opps
    [06:05 PM] Sais Xue: But.. another thing.. players can get frustrated if they are doing something, then all of a sudden, 4 more guys show up and because of the exit rules, they can't get away. Or, if a scene has been going on, they can be frustrated that 4 people can take a shot at them to prevent their escape... and remember... you only need 1/4 to fail the attempt... odds are stacked against someone trying to flee. And if they are on a time constraint.. or really tired, they can get very testy and say things in OOC they wouldn't normally
    [06:05 PM] Astrid Floresby nods
    [06:06 PM] Catt Catiria: I agree
    [06:06 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: mmhm
    [06:06 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: I would say rules of capture apply then.. but.. heh thats old stuff
    [06:07 PM] Sais Xue: And finally... players can may be feeling frustrated knowing that in a gang fight they won't win, but the actual outcome will take forever to finally come because of the nature of clusterfucks.
    [06:07 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: these things can go on for hours people are tired, stressed it is easy to forget you were supposed to be having fun

    [06:08 PM] Sariayna Yuhara nod nod

    [06:08 PM] Sais Xue: But.... we must never forget the Sts in this
    [06:08 PM] Sais Xue: Trying to keep a large number of people in conflict with each other is always a touchy issue, nevermind when it drags on for a long while.
    [06:09 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: like hours XD
    [06:09 PM] Astrid Floresby: mmhmm
    [06:09 PM] Sariayna Yuhara hugs all the STs in the room
    [06:09 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: and the meter really does not allow for mass fights to take place.
    [06:10 PM] Sais Xue: The meter does... if you want to meter fight
    [06:10 PM] Usagi Vyper: just be ebil.. if you can't escape, and KNOW you won't win, just 'surrender' that'll make them doubletake, cause they won't know what to do, when everyone goes 'huh' for a complete turn, you tell the ST, 'I use the confusion to make a dasj for it !'
    [06:10 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: lol
    [06:10 PM] Astrid Floresby: lol
    [06:10 PM] Sais Xue: I have been in two, the first was like... 1v6 and a 2v4.... over in 3 minutes for the first, 10 for the otherone
    [06:11 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: yeah remember guys you can walk away, the ST does not dare. I have had some where I had to pee so bad my eyes were yellow
    [06:11 PM] Sais Xue: Not a bit of rp when the fighting started though
    [06:11 PM] Usagi Vyper: lil bunnehs have to be smarter than thier average bully.
    [06:11 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: and yes, people forget they can just surrender to fight another day
    [06:12 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: RL would you take on that many people?
    [06:12 PM] StormyMoonNight Resident: Ok, Imost g.. howver I would remindpeopleto be ice to the ST that has been sitting there for 7 hours
    [06:12 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: Ehh.. the St's deserve respect for putting up with our idiocy :p
    [06:12 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: hugs
    [06:13 PM] Sais Xue: Nope. I was laughing when a newer player took on the chief of police, a giant beastly demon of a magistrate, two other cops.... and a couple others.
    [06:13 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol took on shay?
    [06:13 PM] Usagi Vyper: i saw that. he was doomed.

    [06:13 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: oh man *facepalm*
    [06:13 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: lol
    [06:13 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: I admire players that can dive right in like that, dumb but brave
    [06:14 PM] Maximus Ecksol: sounds familiar
    [06:14 PM] Usagi Vyper: that was'nt brave.. it was . . . . suicide.. the HARD way.
    [06:14 PM] Astrid Floresby chuckles
    [06:14 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: giggles
    [06:14 PM] Magne Sinister: better than a radio bath
    [06:14 PM] Maximus Ecksol: was that the one that lost a couple of legs? lol
    [06:14 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: lol I think Brigitte would get her ass kicked by Shay...and she has been here for months..
    [06:14 PM] Sais Xue: Second shortest fight I was ever in. But yeah... it was awhile ago... back when Zee was head of the hospital... it was some wraith guy
    [06:14 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: I was afraid to talk here for 2 weeks so I still admire anyone who can jump in
    [06:15 PM] Usagi Vyper: legs broken in three places, kidney stabbed, beat down twice.
    [06:15 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: *got my ass kicked by vedis first 1 hour in LEgo's XD
    [06:15 PM] Maximus Ecksol: yea i rember that one
    [06:15 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: awww
    [06:15 PM] Usagi Vyper: oh ? not he slayer ?
    [06:15 PM] Marcus Firegrave: i was kinda forced to fight, first week, was nothign but scraps.. but then again, those who know my past, know that i was kinda in a bad place to start lol
    [06:16 PM] Sais Xue: Nope... that was bad two at the end... but this one was a meter fight, Usagi.
    [06:16 PM] Maximus Ecksol: rembers picking a fight with the hospital wall & losing
    [06:16 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: hehe people usually want to protect Ophe then she calmly pulls their ass out of the fire and takes care of it
    [06:16 PM] Astrid Floresby chuckles
    [06:17 PM] Sais Xue: all meter, no rp back when the recycle for push was short as hell, the guy charger into about 6 guys and went down FAST
    [06:17 PM] Marcus Firegrave: even when shes stuck in a spell circle? one that was solved with a simple task?
    [06:17 PM] Magne Sinister raises his hand "Sais.. Darlington and I have to go...so sorry"
    [06:17 PM] Sais Xue: But... back to the STs...
    [06:17 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: i just avoid fights when i can.. i can never seem to ever land a hit anyway.. so meh.. meaningless for me.. and im a constable >_>
    [06:17 PM] Sais Xue: and.. oh? Marcus.. Exp them!
    [06:17 PM] Usagi Vyper: da bunneh got picked on alot at first.. till she had enough an desidedto punch da wolfies in da nose.
    [06:18 PM] Marcus: ((Uilleam Mac IntSagairt is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:18 PM] Maximus Ecksol: had more fights with inanimate objects than the living
    [06:18 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: XPS!
    [06:18 PM] Marcus: ((Darlington is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:18 PM] Magne Sinister: thank you!
    [06:18 PM] Darlington Carolina: Thank You
    [06:18 PM] Sariayna Yuhara bounces happily
    [06:18 PM] Sais Xue: We are really busy. The ST's usually have skype running as a way to communicate if there is an issue or just to keep in touch if something as trivial as ooc isn't working. That, possibly a few windows open, as well as the confrence or game room all lend poorly to players trying to send a private little message to the ST.. making a person think they are ignored... leading to more issues.
    [06:18 PM] StormyMoonNight Resident: I never want an ST job, I am being called away, though... *tips my feather to those of you who are..*
    [06:18 PM] Sais Xue: and.. ah.. Marcus.. *points to Stormy*
    [06:19 PM] Marcus: ((Raziel is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:19 PM] Astrid Floresby hugs the STs
    06:19 PM] Astrid Floresby: ... and gives them cookies.
    [06:19 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: Dunno being an ST is not so bad i guess.. you get to see behind the screens of people chars.. and witness weird and disturbing scenes :p

    [06:20 PM] Maximus Ecksol: i get enough of that in rl ty lol
    [06:20 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: *remembes the cookie from tenbells :P*
    [06:20 PM] Usagi Vyper: walk the city at 3 am slt, you'll see all that
    [06:20 PM] StormyMoonNight Resident: ty
    [06:20 PM] Astrid Floresby: *never took one!*
    [06:21 PM] MorighanStormcrow Fairey is Offline
    [06:21 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: my fav one was when a player ate one and threw the rest to Barret's dog
    [06:21 PM] Sais Xue noms on Astrid's cookies happily

    [06:21 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: giggles, Barret RP's that his dog went nuts and thought he was an otter for four hours
    [06:21 PM] Astrid Floresby: ROFL!
    [06:21 PM] Sais Xue: But yeah.. that last bit... is giving you all some info from the ST side of things.... something you don't usually see.
    [06:21 PM] Maximus Ecksol writes that one down
    [06:21 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: I once encountered a guy like that.. kept throwing shit at me.. so nimi went over and heabutted him outcold for the rest of the cookie's duratio..

    [06:22 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: giggles
    [06:22 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: poor guy.. XD one whole hour..
    [06:22 PM] Sais Xue: But... I think that about wraps it up... unless there are any questions?
    [06:22 PM] Ophelia Applewhyte: Thank you Sais that was a good class!
    [06:22 PM] Catt Catiria: Thank you Sais.
    [06:22 PM] Maximus Ecksol: what is the square root of 56923? lol
    [06:22 PM] MorighanStormcrow Fairey is Online
    [06:23 PM] Astrid Floresby: THANK YOU SAIS!
    [06:23 PM] Marcus: ((Razor is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:23 PM] Maximus Ecksol: ty hammer man

    [06:23 PM] Nimilanor Delvalle: 28462? :p
    [06:23 PM] Maximus Ecksol: hehehe
    [06:23 PM] Marcus: ((Usagi is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:23 PM] Fiona Restless: ty sais
    [06:23 PM] Sais Xue: 238.stuffs

    [06:23 PM] Legacies 1891 - Orientation proudly welcomes Duncan Mactavish who has gone through the complete Orientation Pack and has become the newest Role Playing Citizen :)
    [06:23 PM] Nammare: ((Fiona Restless is In Character))
    [06:23 PM] WilliamFitzpatrick Resident: Pi r square not roots
    [06:23 PM] Marcus: ((Corinthia is given 1000 experience points.))

    [06:23 PM] Usagi Vyper: an da bunneh bolts for the floor !
    [06:24 PM] Maximus Ecksol: next class we'll cover calcius :P
    [06:24 PM] Marcus: ((Brigitte D'Champagne is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:24 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: YAY! EXPS!
    [06:24 PM] Sais Xue: alrighty... you lot take care... hope you all have some great RP tonight, and hope you had fun here
    [06:24 PM] Usagi Vyper: thank you, marcus... Sais.. !1
    [06:24 PM] Marcus: ((Astrid is given 1000 experience points.))

    [06:24 PM] Duncan Mactavish has entered chat range (19.6m)
    [06:24 PM] Astrid Floresby: TY :D

    [06:24 PM] Marcus: ((Nammare is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:24 PM] Sariayna Yuhara hands the teacher a nice shiny red apple :3
    [06:24 PM] Marcus: ((Will is given 1000 experience points.))
    [06:24 PM] WilliamFitzpatrick Resident: ty
    [06:25 PM] Sais Xue takes the apple and smiles "Aw... thank you
    [06:25 PM] Sariayna Yuhara: :3


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